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griffin said:
Kumbaya my lord.....Kumbaya.

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DuckMeRunnin said:
And I thought YESTERDAY was a strange day in Clayton.

Today made it seem like a kindergarten field trip.

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DuckMeRunnin said:
I have a hard time disagreeing with you, Bill. But this was a bit more widespread. You know where our shops are, and security in that building is still tighter than Dick's hatband.

No one I talked to yesterday had ever seen anything like it in Clayton. They seemed ready to declare Marshall Law.

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dabs said:
And in come the Black Panthers....reportedly.

I don't see why the economy is not actually thriving in North County - it seems to be packed full of opportunists

...and, when looking at the Reverend Sharpton - don't it look like someone photoshopped a three times life sized head onto a 4 year old body?

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HAUS said:
i'm heading to Florissant tomorrow.

is there anything I need to be aware of??


Oh wait, nevermind. I'm heading to Florissant Colorado, population 25.

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rb. said:
They just named Officer Darren Wilson as the officer who shot the kid in Ferguson. When the chief made the announcement he also tied the kid to a robbery at a nearby store and the crowd got pretty pissed at that. This deal is not going away anytime soon.

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Paul Dallas said:
Can anyone explain to me what is up with the dude who manages to get some camera time in all the press conferences . . . what the stuffed animals with ropes and strings around their necks and chains? what is that about?

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rb. said:
They just named Officer Darren Wilson as the officer who shot the kid in Ferguson. When the chief made the announcement he also tied the kid to a robbery at a nearby store and the crowd got pretty pissed at that. This deal is not going away anytime soon.

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That is not possible. He was just strolling along on the way to his grandma-ma's house.

Here is the next narrative from the mobs. "Since when is stealing a few smokes from a store a reason to shoot and kill a kid?..."

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Nixon said the investigation isn't changed by the information about the robbery.

"Nothing should deter figuring out how and why Michael Brown was killed," Nixon said. "There are a lot of steps between now and when justice is served. And there are going to be a lot of bounces along the way."

Thursday night, McCulloch blasted Nixon's decision to remove the St. Louis County Police Department as the lead agency overseeing security in Florissant. Patricia Washington, a chief aid to County Executive Charlie Dooley, said Friday morning Dooley was highly disappointed with McCulloch.

I think it's unfortunate that Mr. McCulloch would insert himself in that manner,” Washington said, arguing that establishing stability in the protest area should be a top priority of everyone.

“It should not be a turf war,” Washington said.

St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay also criticized McCulloch for his comments yesterday.

Just after 10:50 a.m. Slay tweeted "For the record. I believe that the county prosecutor's remarks were ill-timed and wrong."

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griffin said:
Not interested. I'm happy to be on the sideline for a change.

There is a young Police Officer who will soon be in ANOTHER fight for his life.......and he's likely to be left to the wolves from what I can see.

This has the potential to get really ugly......tonight will be a good barometer on just how ugly.

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DuckMeRunnin said:
But, wouldn't you think they'd be better at hiding it ?

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But, wouldn't you think they'd be better at hiding it ?

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griffin said:
It's hard to imagine a bigger collection of dumb forks who think they have the answer to how to handle this problem of looting and rioting.



Here's a clue.....get the fork out of the way, and that includes you too Capt. Johnson (what a joke), and let the Police maintain law and order. If you don't like their methods I would suggest stop breaking the law....it's pretty forking simple.

I'm sick of politicians and morons pontificating on how complex the problem is......no, it isn't. Break the law, get your ass handed to you. Obey the law, have a merry time. The end.

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How is it that all that chit went on last night, but there were no arrests ?

I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure that's not an example of " policing ".

The law abiding citizens of the area are falling victim to the " rights " of criminals.

It gets more pathetic each day.

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I guess my point is this...........

If they are going to ignore people that are blatantly breaking the law, how can they think this will lessen the frequency of them doing so ?

Maybe they think they'll just get tired of looting and vandalizing ?

As I said, it gets more pathetic by the day.

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griffin said:
It's hard to imagine a bigger collection of dumb forks who think they have the answer to how to handle this problem of looting and rioting.

Here's a clue.....get the fork out of the way, and that includes you too Capt. Johnson (what a joke), and let the Police maintain law and order. If you don't like their methods I would suggest stop breaking the law....it's pretty forking simple.

I'm sick of politicians and morons pontificating on how complex the problem is......no, it isn't. Break the law, get your ass handed to you. Obey the law, have a merry time. The end.

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Well...that lasted longer than I expected it would

I am sure it is hard to sit back and watch it.

Not one time during any of the press release I watched at 3 p.m. ish (I got bored with it at 3:45 and turned it off) did any elected or sworn person at the podium talk about wanting to ensure the truth prevailed (whatever that truth may be) but rather we want justice for this family and community.

Now I know in political talk that technically means IF the facts indicate that the officer acted accordingly then they can say...well justice prevailed but they sure make it out to be they are all there right now to support the family in their crusade.

Regardless, I do feel for the family that lost an 18 year old Son and just as much for the officer who, I would guess although he always knew in his mind he might be forced to use deadly force at any point in his career, did not think 2 minutes before it happened he was about to be faced with that situation in his career and the fallout that was going to occur as a result of it.

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The body has been taken for a 2nd " opinion " for a few days now..................... or so I hear.

You're right, Foots. This thang ain't near over.

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Wait and see......do you think this Officer would not already be charged if they had the evidence? Do you think they would send 40 FBI agents into the neighborhood if they had evidence to charge the Officer? Do you realize what may happen if they can't charge him? The stakes couldn't be higher.

Consider this.....while you contemplate why the family keeps asking for more autopsies. What if the Medical Examiner has concluded that the first round fired at the Police car, where even witnesses for Brown saw a fight, was a fatal round. Do you realize that if that's the case 100 rounds fired afterward make no difference. What if Michael Brown was actually a dead man walking when he moved to get away from the car? If the fatal round was fired during that struggle, whether he fell immediately or not.....the officer was acting in self defense and no other rounds matter.

Try 'splaining that to the masses.

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foots said:
Guess the first report didn't look to favorable for the homie team.

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Paul Dallas said:
I was harassed by the police today and perhaps even my civil liberties were violated.

Without embellishment or exaggeration for effect, here is what transpired . . . .

12:40 p.m. this afternoon traveling westbound on the 15500 block of Manchester road in Ballwin, a police cruiser lit up the rollers and sounded the siren piercingly for approximately 10 or 11 seconds until which time I could spot a safe place location in which to pull over. In my company, my hot-tempered redhead wife and 10 year old daughter, returning from HomeGoods store with some objectionably tacky art, a white horse in oil if you must know, in which to decorate said daughters bedroom. We paid $29.57 and I was able to produce a receipt offering proof that artwork had indeed been purchased and not strong-armed. But I digress. Back to the pullover. I was short on time, in a surly mood, and with the pressing need to deliver my son to a soccer game in Shrewsbury in approximately 45 minutes, but more to the point, highly embarassed and in a profound state of guessing, quite nervously mind you, as I fumbled for my drivers license and a current proof of insurance, several of which cards were expired until I was able to put my hands on a current one. Running through my mind in those tense moments . . . .what infraction could I have possibly committed to deserve such a highly visible spectacle right there in front of Penn Station and BWW's for all my neighbors to see and guess as to my detention for misdemeanors unknown or possibly more egregious crime . . . .

I had my intermittent wipers on without my headlights on. Yes, that was it.

Stern lecture and I was released. Thankful to live another day.

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Curfew at midnight..........looting at 11.........rain delay.

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Paul Dallas said:
I was harassed by the police today and perhaps even my civil liberties were violated.

Without embellishment or exaggeration for effect, here is what transpired . . . .

12:40 p.m. this afternoon traveling westbound on the 15500 block of Manchester road in Ballwin, a police cruiser lit up the rollers and sounded the siren piercingly for approximately 10 or 11 seconds until which time I could spot a safe place location in which to pull over. In my company, my hot-tempered redhead wife and 10 year old daughter, returning from HomeGoods store with some objectionably tacky art, a white horse in oil if you must know, in which to decorate said daughters bedroom. We paid $29.57 and I was able to produce a receipt offering proof that artwork had indeed been purchased and not strong-armed. But I digress. Back to the pullover. I was short on time, in a surly mood, and with the pressing need to deliver my son to a soccer game in Shrewsbury in approximately 45 minutes, but more to the point, highly embarassed and in a profound state of guessing, quite nervously mind you, as I fumbled for my drivers license and a current proof of insurance, several of which cards were expired until I was able to put my hands on a current one. Running through my mind in those tense moments . . . .what infraction could I have possibly committed to deserve such a highly visible spectacle right there in front of Penn Station and BWW's for all my neighbors to see and guess as to my detention for misdemeanors unknown or possibly more egregious crime . . . .

I had my intermittent wipers on without my headlights on. Yes, that was it.

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foots said:
Curfew at midnight..........looting at 11.........rain delay.

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Ummm....sounds as if play resumed

From Capt. Johnson at the press conference yesterday - "We will enforce the curfew. We will do it by approaching and talking with people. We will not do it with tear gas and armored personnel"(it was very close to that verbage at least).

Fast forward this morning - Capt. Johnson at the press conference, "we had one person shot and injured critically and might lose their life, we had another person standing in the middle of the road waving a gun. We arrested 8 people and used tear gas and armored personnel."

But....standing with him was the Chief and other command staff from Ferguson PD. Ummmmm......Jay, this plan we came up with didn't work, what next. - Ummm, do what you need to do but include Ferguson in on it and see if we can get the St. Louis County folks back so we can play that angle on it

Just wait till Al and Jesse and the Panthers get done today.

Best of luck to all you who live in that area - I would say it will be a while before you are back to your normal controlled chaos.

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But it keeps getting stranger by the day. It makes for great entertainment if it weren't so dam disturbing. But I can't look away!

I know their schools are bad, but I never expected that they had failed them THIS bad. There seems to be ZERO comprehension of our criminal justice system or how it works by any of these protestors. And the politicians trying to one-up each other -Nixon throwing the whole local and county police and Bob Mc under the bus. All of his posturing and grandstanding, bringing in the Hwy Patrol guy in to lead things since he was a local . . . but what a joke thats been . . . it appears he has gone native and is ready to tear gas himself. And all these goofy rally's, Al Sharpton's physical appearance alone is very frightening. Shabazz and the panthers. I even heard that alderman dude that everyone seems to worship, Antonio whatever, I heard him talking to Charlie Brennan the other day on KMOX and trying to explain that gangs "do a lot of good".

If somebody says the word "community" one more goddam time, I'm going to explode.

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sptsman said:
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puppy said:
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wuchang said:
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Paul Dallas said:
But it keeps getting stranger by the day. It makes for great entertainment if it weren't so dam disturbing. But I can't look away!

I know their schools are bad, but I never expected that they had failed them THIS bad. There seems to be ZERO comprehension of our criminal justice system or how it works by any of these protestors. And the politicians trying to one-up each other -Nixon throwing the whole local and county police and Bob Mc under the bus. All of his posturing and grandstanding, bringing in the Hwy Patrol guy in to lead things since he was a local . . . but what a joke thats been . . . it appears he has gone native and is ready to tear gas himself. And all these goofy rally's, Al Sharpton's physical appearance alone is very frightening. Shabazz and the panthers. I even heard that alderman dude that everyone seems to worship, Antonio whatever, I heard him talking to Charlie Brennan the other day on KMOX and trying to explain that gangs "do a lot of good".

If somebody says the word "community" one more goddam time, I'm going to explode.

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duko™ said:
Forensically speaking, if they ever make a movie about all this it probably won't star robin williams...

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dabs said:
http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j

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kdog said:
The Good Dr Baden waved his 10,000 dolla autopsie fee

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halfasmuch said:
I sent a msg to one of my buddies this am that lives in Florissant...

Was that an earthquake or was that just the sound of the value of your House dropping near bottom!

Strangely, he was not amused...

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Even though I retired almost 2 years ago,one of the guys that does statistical analysis of residential data for STL County called and asked me to check the data for a 'mini black hole' in SoCo...when I reviewed the files and the data mapping--

sure enough there it was....when I looked at the list of owner's names--

saw yours

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halfasmuch said:
WU,

We took the Intern to lunch at Pirrone's .... Couldnt help myself... drove through the west side of Ferguson to go back to Fighterland... Not a single person protesting....

course, they are probably still porchsetters this time o day!

Governor FlipFlop is just trying to attract the Democratic base so Hilary picks him to b Biden Jr.

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If you only went down to Frost and then to Fighterland-- you didn't really get into Ferguson that far

Even if you went down to Chambers and then turned towards Fighterland-- you didn't get get into Ferguson that far

However if you went thru downtown and then turned on Suburban to the west......then you were in West Ferguson or East Kinloch--

they are kind of hard to tell apart except for the sign telling you which town you are in

If you had turned East at Suburban and drove past the the old Universal Match factory and kept going East-- well, then you would have been right at that McDonald's that sells the Happy Meals for Rioters-- comes with a free pint of milk for tear gas relief

In any event-- hope you enjoyed slumming on Mother Boeing's dime

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Halfie

Greg should be having a good view of the foolishness that will be in Clayton today

Who knows.......
Charlie Dooley may take time out from being treated with Gold Bond for his chapped ass to try and throw some mud on McCulloch--

I guess Charlie is trying to remain relevant once he leaves office in January.

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From what little I saw, and everyone I talked to, there were more media folks than protesters.

I think latest videos and such are taking the wind out of their sails.

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Halfie

Greg should be having a good view of the foolishness that will be in Clayton today

Who knows.......
Charlie Dooley may take time out from being treated with Gold Bond for his chapped ass to try and throw some mud on McCulloch--

I guess Charlie is trying to remain relevant once he leaves office in January.

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Bill, I was out of Clayton for most of the day.

From what little I saw, and everyone I talked to, there were more media folks than protesters.

I think latest videos and such are taking the wind out of their sails.

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H2ODOG said:
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I'm sure HNIC of the Department of Racial Justice, Eric "Ignore the Law" Holder will find the need for a special prosecutor in THIS case...

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foots said:
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foots said:
Does that mean she got a hook-up wif Rastus this weekend?

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griffin said:
Nobody left but the dumbasses from CNN stirring the pot.

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dabs said:
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Kurt......you are waaaaayyyy to much into the Jeremiah Johnson mode

mebbee, you best go down to a town

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